The 100% effective guide to specifying your audience


I’m strolling by and I see you moping at the side of the road, with a blue helium balloon tied to your wrist. “Hi there, sweetie,” I say. “What are you looking so glum about?”

You pull the balloon down by its string and show it to me. On its side in yellow letters it says I RECEIVED ADVICE I DON’T KNOW HOW TO USE OVER THE INTERNET!

“Oh. I see. What’s the dilemma?”

You say, There’s been this wave of people lately talking about how you need to be specific about your audience. You glare at me meaningfully but I just grin. Well, I want to be specific, sure. But when have you gone far enough? When’s too far? How do I know when I’ve gotten it right?

I keep grinning. “I actually know how to solve this one for you. Good timing on your behalf, too – I’ve been unconsciously doing this in client sessions for months but I didn’t have words around it until very recently. So you get it first: here’s the litmus test and here’s how to use it.”

You perk up. Bring it on!

The deep and meaningful questions

“Right, I’m going to ask passersby some questions, note what I do.” I walk up to a woman in a very sharp suit and I say, “Hello there. I’m from the internet – may I ask you a few short questions?”

She replies, “Sure, I guess.”

“Thank you very much. Firstly, are you a woman?”

“Yes.”

“Are you a business professional?”

“Yes, I’m an electrical engineer.”

“Are you a woman breaking into a traditionally male-dominated industry?”

“Hells yes I am!”

“Thank you very much,” I say, and walk back to you. “Did you see it?”

Did I see what?

“Ah, okay, another demonstration.” I walk over to a guy wearing an XKCD shirt and playing a Nintendo 3DS. “Hello there! Are you a geek?”

“Yep, sure am.”

“Are you a gamer?”

“Yep.”

“Are you the kind of gamer who’d be interested in thoughtful critical analysis of the video game industry?”

“Hells yes I am!”

“Thanks very much, and enjoy the show.” I return to you. “Did you see it that time?”

Well, I saw that they both responded with “Hells yes I am” on your third question.

“Why do you think they did that?”

Because… you got more specific?

“Yes, but more than that. I got specific by finding the identities they care deeply about.”

Identity is POWER.

“Let’s use the businesswoman as an example. At first, I asked if she was a woman. She is, it’s part of her identity, but it’s not something she is profoundly attached to as a concept. Asking her age would have the same effect, which is why I’m so vehement that demographics suck and should be used sparingly if at all… but I digress.

“Then I asked what her job was. She’s clearly invested in it, but it isn’t a core part of her identity to be an electrical engineer. It was when I asked her about being a woman in a male-dominated industry that she lit up – that’s a part of herself she cares deeply about, and it’s one that really matters to her. Probably because she deals with that constant friction all the time – in order to thrive, she’s had to build that identity every day for years.”

Oh. I get it. If I made a website for electrical engineers she’d be mildly interested, but if I made it for female electrical engineers, or for women in any profession that’s mostly male, then she’d be excited.

“Well done, exactly! What about the other guy? You try.”

Okay, he was pretty calm and matter-of-fact about being a geek – didn’t that used to be a big deal?

“Yeah, but not so much these days.”

And he was also pretty blasé about being a gamer, which I’m going to assume is a geek who plays video games. And clearly that’s still too broad as a category.

“Got it in one!”

So there would be lots of types of gamer that he wouldn’t respond to. But the idea of being one who likes thoughtful critiques… he wants to be the guy who thinks about video games, who’s playing them for a reason?

“Well done! Yes, he wouldn’t want to be lumped in with the Wii-playing grannies or the abuse-flinging seventeen-year-olds on Xbox Live. He’s a mature gamer – it’s part of his identity, and one he cares about deeply.”

How did you know that in two questions?

“The XKCD shirt was a dead giveaway. Besides, I do this all day; I’m fantastic at it.”

The magical formula

You think for a minute. So what you’re really saying is that I should keep digging until my audience would answer “Hells yes I am” to my questions?

“Exactly! It’s so damn simple, I could hug myself with pride.” Which I then do, making small humming noises. “If you imagine your audience clearly and you say to them, “Are you this kind of person?” there are three possible responses. They could say no – which is a problem, of course – or they could say, “Yep” which is good but you’re not there yet, or they could jump out of their chair saying, “HELLS YES I AM!” That last place is the ground where you can build communities and resources that people would fight a rabid wolverine to be part of.”

Give me some more examples!

“Okay… mothers?”

Snoooore.

“Mother of children under 3?”

Still probably snore.

“Mother of children under 3, and raising them overseas?”

Hells yes I am!

“Gardener?”

Yes…

“Are you growing your own vegetables?”

Oooh. I’m not sure, people I know who do that are pretty intense about it.

“Growing your own vegetables because it’s more sustainable?”

Hells yes I am!

“Growing your own vegetables so the kids can experience the magic?”

Hells yes I am!

“Growing your own vegetables because they taste better?”

Hells yes I am! Huh. So there’s lots of possible reasons, and the reasons matter. How do you choose which angle to take… do you even have to choose?

“Did I get an unequivocal “Hells yes I am” for just growing your own vegetables?”

No, but…

“… but if you were the vegie grower you’d REALLY like to have all three of those groups on board. You want to help them, you have lots of ways you could help them. But you still have to choose.”

Why?

The cold hard decision time

“Because their goals conflict, and you can’t deliver your most powerful work to all three at the same time. The sustainability crowd would be put off by the heavy-duty nitrogen fertiliser you’d recommend for better-tasting carrots. The family-gardeners would want ideas on how to get toddlers helping out in the garden that would leave the other two groups cold. It would be MUCH better to choose one and stick to it. Or, if you’re slightly insane, have three different websites, one for each audience. Then you can get three unequivocal “Hell yes I am!” answers.”

That’s a lot more work!

“It most certainly is. But it’s less work than creating a big huge business that no-one gives a shit about. Also, more profitable and joyous.”

That makes sense. It sucks, but it makes sense. Last question – can you go too deep with this?

“You know, I don’t think you really can. The only possible problem is scale – there are only so many Labrador-owning jogging freaks in Poughkeepsie. But if you could expand to Labrador-owning jogging freaks in the rest of the state, or the country, or the world, then you’re good again. All hail the internet!”

You say hooray and wave your balloon on a string.

The moral of the story

When you base a business around an identity that people are deeply connected to, that business will rock on fucking toast.

Try it out in the comments, if you like: who are your people? And would they answer “HELLS YES I AM!” to the question, “Are you, or have you ever been…?”

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  • Anonymous

    Crap. I sure hope we’re gonna talk more about this in our next call cause I sure don’t feel like I’m clear on the question to get the answer “Hells yes I am.” Thanks for the great examples. Hit me in a place I care deeply about. :-)

  • http://fungeezer.com Steve Thomas-fungeezer

    Okay, that sounds fine, but I’m really answering those questions myself. If I don’t have an audience, a readership, then there is no one to ask and I have to answer the questions on my own. I may not answer correctly. I may answer in a way that I want them to answer if there was a them.

    Still holding the balloon.

  • http://veganza.com Renée MBM

    Aaaaand hello, clarity! Now my brain is more organised. You rule, Catherine.

  • http://completeflake.com/ LaVonne Ellis

    You’re a friggin’ genius. #thatisall

  • Anonymous

    I’m in the baby stages of starting my biz, and I’m struggling mightily with a simple explanation of my right people.  Because what I’ll be doing is essentially life coaching, it’s hard to narrow down the field to that third level of detail. When what I’m going for is youngish women struggling with their selves, I’m not sure what the next drill-down questions are.

  • http://schmorgasboard.wordpress.com PandorazBox80

    One of the best posts I’ve read thus far. Your enthusiasm is contagious! I’ve been struggling for some time to find my niche, and, while I still have too many ideas and am trying to figure out which one’s the best, I’m even more excited to work harder and try to figure it all out. The real problem is, which interest do I pick, since I’ve narrowed it down to a handful about which I’m equally passionate. Thanks for yet another push to do more and be better!

  • https://CashAndJoy.com Catherine Caine

    *brandishes a big silver needle*

    There will always be a big dose of guesswork when you’re starting out. But you already have people who resonate with your style – they follow you on Twitter, for example. :)

    Here’s the simplest way to go:

    1. Think about who you would most like to work with, spend time with, and create value for.
    2. hink of a way you could describe those people.
    3. Apply the “Hells yes I am” test.

    Does that help?

  • https://CashAndJoy.com Catherine Caine

    Oh hells yes we will. :)

  • https://CashAndJoy.com Catherine Caine

    I win!

  • https://CashAndJoy.com Catherine Caine

    Thankyouverymuch. :)

  • https://CashAndJoy.com Catherine Caine

    Here’s a few possibilities:

    1. What are they struggling with? (Being assertive, finding a meaningful job, relationship troubles, defying parental expectations, etc etc)
    2. What else is true about them? (Footy players, chronic disease, singers, lawyers, goths, overeaters, etc etc)

  • https://CashAndJoy.com Catherine Caine

    If they’re all amazing, I recommend a dice roll. Pay attention as to how you feel when a particular answer comes up – are you excited or disappointed?

  • http://fungeezer.com Steve Thomas-fungeezer

    Yep. So I just need to talk to me and I’m set! Well, sorta. Those folks who resonate with my style, both of them, are just demented wanna be bloggers. Oh yeah, that’s who I’m targeting!

  • http://www.allisonshamrell.com Allison

    Love this!! Absolutely love it. This is actually the #1 thing I took from our chat a few months ago; I have basically forgotten demographics and aimed my business (more specifically, my monthly newsletter) at anyone who loves, loves, LOVES their dog! Because that’s a huge part of their identity and it’s how I connect emotionally with them. Now I just need to expand my reach to people beyond my mailing list… anyways, thank you for the refresher :)  

  • Dawn

    You just managed to put into words what I’ve been trying to wrap my head around for YEARS!  Sure, I accidentally got it right with my doll page on FB, but now I understand why, and how to build that customer base.  Am I on the right track? Hells Yes I Am!!!  You rock, Catherine … on so many levels :D

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for the feedback!  I think my trouble is that I’m looking at helping with all of those struggles, if that’s what they need, and I don’t feel the need to narrow the clientele to such a small category like “goths”.  The idea is more of a psychology practice or life coaching, so it seems to be organically more open than that.  But, at the same time, I realize that targeting people who “just want to be happier” or “just want to communicate better” is probably too wide, hence my confusion.

  • https://CashAndJoy.com Catherine Caine

    Hoooray!

  • https://CashAndJoy.com Catherine Caine

    Thank you so much, Dawn. It’s a pleasure to help.

  • https://CashAndJoy.com Catherine Caine

    You’re going to have to narrow SOMEWHERE, either by what you do or who you do it for. Because otherwise you’re going to be like the 10,000 interchangeable life coaches around. And that is a hard place to be.

  • Heidi Dobbs

    Hi Ellie :) I’ve been in a similar boat for quite a while myself, and sadly it really held me back from making ANY sort of forward movement :( I felt like I HAD to figure out my ‘niche’ before I could do anything!

    Recently, I started taking on clients, just so that I could at least get some experience under my belt… and what I found was that, the more I worked with individual people, with individual issues, I was able to narrow down not just what I’m good at, or what I like doing, or what I want to help people with (which is pretty much everything) but that sweet spot where everything overlaps. And all of a sudden, it’s like bang! that’s what my ‘niche’ is supposed to be!

    Granted, it does mean there’s all these other people that I’m not reaching out to, which means I can’t help them (since they don’t even know I exist). And that makes a part of me cry… but I can’t help everyone anyway! At least this way, I know who I’m most likely to be the most help to… and I can speak to them in a way that makes them say “Hells yes!”

    If nothing else, the nice thing about narrowing down is that it gives you a place to start… and you can always expand later ;)

  • http://www.vitalvocation.com/freevideos Brian Cormack Carr

    Nice – great that SOMEONE at last has broken beyond the boring old “define your audience; then decide what to sell them” mantras of the dinosaur age.

    Yes – it’s important to put YOURSELF at the centre of questions like this; after all, you’re going to have to live with the choice you make.

    Thanks for putting together such an elegant process for getting there…

  • http://www.anencouragingbird.com BirdyD – Roving Robin Reporter

    CrowTarot Tours:
    Fen (self-defined or not) of such shows as Star Trek, Destination Truth, and Ghost Hunters, who have a positive outlook about the future and a curiosity about & a respect for all life, here & Elsewhere.

    TwOOwls Art:
    Oddly enough, this one’s harder. People who resonate with my style, obviously. In the past, at least, these have also tended to be people on the ‘fringes’: pagans, medieval faire folk, both Travellers & Participants, sci-fi people, those few in the psychic faire community willing to be independent enough to consider original art.

    Why haven’t I been hanging out with these people? Because, until folk like you, Jenny B. Bones, Peggy Arvidson and the rest of the latest class starting flying high & embracing their woo, I don’t think there WERE people teaching both business & woo in the same space, and we needed business teaching, so we hung out & fit in.

    I notice that Mike & I are making considerably more progress since I’ve discovered you all in your Best Work capacities.

    Bestest isn’t just for Peeps, it turns out – it’s for teachers, too. :>

    Thank you all for turning these things into language I can understand! :>

  • https://CashAndJoy.com Catherine Caine

    Thank you very much, Brian! I’m a big believer in the superpowers of selfishness. :)

  • https://CashAndJoy.com Catherine Caine

    I try. :)

  • Laura Zarrin

    This is a great article! I’m still struggling with how to reach my right people–art directors/art buyers. I keep thinking it’s just about my art, but I think that’s only part of it. It’s really difficult for me to figure out how to get them to hire me. Thanks for this insight into how to identify with the right people.

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  • Chris Cliff

    I think you have drilled down too far when you say to yourself “do these people even exist?”

  • https://CashAndJoy.com Catherine Caine

    You’re very welcome Laura. I’m here to help. :)

  • https://CashAndJoy.com Catherine Caine

    Sure, but I think that would require a LOT of specificity, like “salmon fishers who love in Toronto and drive a Ford and have a wife called Sally” specificity. :)

  • Robyn Coburn

    Wishing now there was some link to Dawn’s doll page on FB…..

  • https://CashAndJoy.com Catherine Caine

    So do I, actually. :)

  • Erin Oveis Brant

    Hells yes! If I could reach through my computer and give you a hug I totally would!! Virtual high five instead? Now to find my hells yes question…with a little (or maybe a lot) of digging I know I can figure this out :)  

  • Chrystal

    Love this!  As always your writing makes me want to be your best friend.  I’m a bit far away though.  Remote best friends. 

    So here’s my question – how to apply this to jewelry?  I make personalized jewelry and earthy fashion jewelry.  Some of it features inspirational words and some people use it to feature their children’s names.  Usually a young family.  Perhaps I should narrow to one audience?  So…

    Are you a woman?
    Do you like hand crafted jewelry?
    Do you believe in the power of words to motivate? 
    or

    Are you a mother?
    Do you like hand crafted jewelry?
    Do your tender children hold your heart in their chubby little hands? 
    (as a mom I get this)
    or
    Have your tender children changed your perception of the entire world?

    Are you a woman?
    Are you interested in fashion?
    Do you like to be noticed for having unique taste?
    or
    Do you like the sound of “You always have such interesting jewelry.”

    You’ve said, three separate websites for three separate markets.  Perhaps that’s what I’ll have to do.  Hmmmm. 

    Thoughts? Anyone? Better questions?

     

  • https://CashAndJoy.com Catherine Caine

    Virtual high five!

    And I’m here with my free 30-minute Marketing Check-up ready to help, if you so desire.

  • http://www.anencouragingbird.com BirdyD – Roving Robin Reporter

    Is there one Q that covers all?

    Children are, by definition, unique.

    Hand-crafts are, at the end of the day, unique, even when made from the same materials.

    Earthy, depending on exactly how you define it, can be very unique. Natural materials, and Nature itself, is full of the unique.

    Also – what’s your Grand Passion?

    This is not meant to steal thunder – I get a good deal of inspiration & information from Catherine, so definitely talk to her further. She has got Da Goods!!! :>

    If you’d like to talk jewelry or jewelry-ish thoughts with a jewelry person after that, feel free to contact me. :>

  • http://www.anencouragingbird.com BirdyD – Roving Robin Reporter

    Is there one Q that covers all?

    Children are, by definition, unique.

    Hand-crafts are, at the end of the day, unique, even when made from the same materials.

    Earthy, depending on exactly how you define it, can be very unique. Natural materials, and Nature itself, is full of the unique.

    Also – what’s your Grand Passion?

    This is not meant to steal thunder – I get a good deal of inspiration & information from Catherine, so definitely talk to her further. She has got Da Goods!!! :>

    If you’d like to talk jewelry or jewelry-ish thoughts with a jewelry person after that, feel free to contact me. :>

  • http://www.anencouragingbird.com BirdyD – Roving Robin Reporter

    Further thinky-thinks on TwOOwls Art:

    “Are you a person interested in Out-of-this-World jewelry?”

    YUPPERS!!! :>

  • Chrystal

    Thanks for your response.  I see what you’re getting at.  What is the common denominator and work with that. 

    My current tag line is simple, classic, organic jewelry  – very broad.  To cut myself some slack things have evolved quite a bit since I chose it.  I’m currently redesigning my marketing material so it’s a good time to ask these questions. 

    I guess my concern would be losing the opportunity to speak to each audience in a way that’s really relevant to them.  Moms I can talk about sweet children things, tell stories, share articles, food ideas.  It’s its own world.  Which would turn off audience number 3 and potentially audience number 2 as well. 

    The world of words as inspiration/affirmation is a huge one that also brings to mind all kinds of content ideas – power of words science, anecdotes/customer stories etc.

    And finally the world of wanting to feel unique and caring deeply about your image really makes me think of the working world.  That’s the arena where that sort of thing mattered more to me and likely matters more to women over 30 and potentially over 40.  There’s power in having the resources to purchase handmade.  There’s power in being able to pull your look together in a unique way.  Again content ideas come flooding in – fashion ideas/info, book reviews, before/after photo shoots, image consultant partnering and on and on. 

    My point is that in appealing to these markets my brand might lose power if I don’t cater my content to their specific needs.

    Phew!  So what to do now?  Three different companies or a landing page with three directions to go in or ?  Does this make any sense?  It’s hard to see clearly when you’re so close to it. 

    What kind of jewelry do you do?  Would love to chat jewelry world with you.  :)

  • https://CashAndJoy.com Catherine Caine

    Remote besties!

    For me, the only one that sounded like it passed the test was the third one. The other two still feel a bit generic… ones I’d imagine being answered with, “Oh sure.” instead of “HELL YES”.

    Otherwise, it sounds like Birdy is your best resource here, unless you want to sign up for one of those free 30-minute Marketing Check-up sessions so we can talk it out!

  • http://www.anencouragingbird.com BirdyD – Roving Robin Reporter

    Yes, if that is appropriate to your goal and not one of those veg-scenarios like Catherine mentioned in her post.

    It’s a matter of asking the right Q, and going from there. IF that’s the Q you want to work with. There are, after all, a bajillion of them out there, and you are the only one to know which one(s) you want to work with.

    Also keep your own Passion firmly in mind, which if I’m following you correctly, is most centered around #3. (Which may well be why your market shone most clearly through there.)

    It’s up to you. Catherine is a wondrous example of focus. Mike & I are going the other way, sharing our underlying vision throughout the facets of the Avian Empire.

    Both ways can work wondrous well – which way do YOU want to play it? :-)

    (Am also getting that you can always market three different lines if you so choose. Or even combine some of them – moms who hold careers as well as their children in their hearts. That sort of thing. Following Catherine’s advice to not be afraid to specialize.)

    Yes, it is hard to see when you are close to it, which is why I heartily recommend taking Catherine up on her offer – she is absolutely brilliant at bringing out the hidden stuff that was right there all along. :>

    I mainly work in wire, tho’ I’ve been experimenting with less common combinations, such as wrapping stones in fiber, that sort of thing.

    http://www.twoowlsart.com is our jewelry site, tho’ after this post and some other thinking I’ve been doing lately, it’s undergoing a bit of a revamp. (Read, oh my GOODNESS, I know who those people are now, pardon me while I rewrite everything! :-D )

    Which is again why I love Catherine & her wondrous wisdom. :-)

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  • http://www.itsawahmlife.com Jackie Lee

    Another fantastic post Catherine. I love how it all seems so simple and clear when I’m finished reading. :) Here’s mine… 
    Are you a work at home mom trying to juggle all your responsibilities without dropping the ball?

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  • http://www.briangerald.com/ Brian Gerald

    This is probably the most effective I’ve read on how to narrow in on a target audience. And it’s so simple! Kudos.

  • http://www.devacoaching.com Sandi Amorim

    Is Catherine Caine all geniusy?

    Hell yes, she is! 

  • https://CashAndJoy.com Catherine Caine

    Isn’t that EVERY work-at-home mum?

  • https://CashAndJoy.com Catherine Caine

    Thank you, dearest! Does that mean you have an answer? :)

  • https://CashAndJoy.com Catherine Caine

    She certainly tries. :)

  • http://www.itsawahmlife.com Jackie Lee

    hmm… I suppose you’re right, and when I think about all the different kinds of work at home moms I realize my work isn’t right for all of them. 
    I also imagine my stuff probably isn’t right for moms with older kids. 

    so maybe?

    are you a mom juggling young kids and building a blog based business?

    hmm I’m going to keep on thinking about this one. 

  • https://CashAndJoy.com Catherine Caine

    Maybe the extra ingredient is around WHY they’re a WAHM? Is it to keep the precarious finances afloat, or for fulfillment, or some other reason?

  • http://www.itsawahmlife.com Jackie Lee

    oh great point… it’s interesting as I go to say the answer I can feel myself thinking “yeah, but… that’s gonna alienate all these other people” lol, which is the whole point of the process. 

    yeah, I definitely am looking for creative, smart, sassy moms who want to share their talents with the world, and do it from home so they can create their own schedules and raise their own children.

  • https://CashAndJoy.com Catherine Caine

    Yep, that’s indeed the whole point. Well done. :)

  • http://www.itsawahmlife.com Jackie Lee

    So last night I read an ebook about “simple blogging”. I left feeling a bit guilty lol… as much as I feel I “should” be that mom, I’m not. So I have yet again refined my statement, and I think this one might be a real hells yeah. 

    Are you a workaholic mom blogger who has to drag herself away from the computer to make dinner and play Candyland with her kiddo?

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  • https://CashAndJoy.com Catherine Caine

    HELLS YES I AM

    Well, of course I’M not. But that’s perfecto.

  • Rachele

    Ok, sticking my toe in the water. Do you like board games? Do you have a passion for smart, creative board games rich in story and strategy? Are you looking for an affordable, diverse collection of games, so you can share your love of awesome games with your kids, your mom, your friends, strangers you meet at parties, and all the people in your life – without completely emptying your bank account?  It gets a Hells, yeah from me, but does it need to be refined more? It seems, I dunno, cumbersome or wordy or something, and at the same time I feel like I’m leaving something out.

  • https://CashAndJoy.com Catherine Caine

    Speaking as someone who knows quite  afew board game FIENDS, the last one certainly sounds HELLS YES to me. But you’re right, it is still pretty wordy.

    How about “Are you someone who loves to share amazing board games with every person you meet, but doesn’t want to go bankrupt doing it?”

  • http://schmorgasboard.wordpress.com PandorazBox80

    I’ve been struggling, straining, and fighting with myself to narrow down my passion, to choose what’s most important, to decide what it is I want to offer, what I want people to get out of me. Soooo, here goes.

    Do you write? (Or do you want to start?) Do you want to be better at it? Do you agree that you should never stop learning and it’s never too late to start? Are you looking for someone who won’t make you feel stupid but won’t dumb things down?

    This is still too much, but I feel like I’ve finally found my purpose. And that’s a start. Thanks, Catherine! You’re a genius.

    Diane